Review of Com-Pac 25

Basic specs..

The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.

The boat equipped with a masthead rig. The advantage of a masthead rig is its simplicity and the fact that a given sail area - compared with a fractional rig - can be carried lower and thus with less heeling moment.

The Com-Pac 25 is equipped with a long keel. A full keel provide a better directional stability than a similar boat with a fin keel; on the other hand, better directional stability means also that the boat is more difficult to handle in a harbour with less space.

The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 0.76 - 0.86 meter (2.49 - 2.79 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for Com-Pac 25 is 2.02, indicating that this boat would not be accepted to participate in ocean races.

What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?

The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 6.1 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Com-Pac 25 is about 111 kg/cm, alternatively 621 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 111 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 621 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

Sailing statistics

This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.

What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?

What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?

What is a Ballast Ratio?

What is Displacement Length Ratio?

SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio) Indicates how fast the boat is in light wind: - Cruising Boats have ratios 10-15 - Cruiser-Racers have ratios 16-20 - Racers have ratios above 20 - High-Performance Racers have ratios above 24 Sail-area/displacement ratio (SA/D ratio): 14.90

Maintenance

When buying anti-fouling bottom paint, it's nice to know how much to buy. The surface of the wet bottom is about 11m 2 (118 ft 2 ). Based on this, your favourite maritime shop can tell you the quantity you need.

If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.

UsageLengthDiameter
Jib sheet 8.6 m(28.2 feet)10 mm(3/8 inch)
Genoa sheet8.6 m(28.2 feet)10 mm(3/8 inch)
Mainsheet 21.5 m(70.5 feet)10 mm(3/8 inch)
Spinnaker sheet18.9 m(62.0 feet)10 mm(3/8 inch)

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Com-Pac 25 is a 28 ′ 2 ″ / 8.6 m monohull sailboat designed by Hutchins Group and built by Com-Pac Yachts starting in 1979.

Drawing of Com-Pac 25

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

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Com-Pac Yachts is a Florida boat builder with a particularly interesting history. The company was formed in 1957 by W. L. Hutch Hutchins Sr., an entrepreneurial tool-and-die maker who operated a metal-stamping and fabrication shop in St. Louis, Missouri. A successful inventor, he created everything from automobile accessories, including the Ah-ooo-gah horn often retrofitted on Model A Fords, to a unique folding high-chair.

In 1970, Hutchins converted a personal interest in sailing into a corporate endeavor when he commissioned Clark Mills to design the Com-Pac Yacht, a 16-footer capable of being shipped in a box. Mills is most famous for designing the Windmill and Optimist prams. Hutchinss goal was to build a small but highly efficient sailboat that could easily be trailered behind a compact car.

The first boat, constructed in 1974, was trailered by Hutchins behind a Ford Pinto. The company eventually introduced several small models, ranging in size from 19 to 23 feet. Bob Johnson of Island Packet and Charley Morgan were employed as designers of the companys three cruisers, the Com-Pac 25-, 27-, and 35-footers. A line of catboats was introduced in 1999, and the companys production has since shifted in the direction of these and other smaller boats.

Com-Pac loosely categorizes its boats into four classes. Its trailerable catboats include the 14-foot Picnic Cat; the 17-foot Sun Cat (available in three configurations-a full cabin, a cuddy cabin, and an open cockpit); and the 20-foot Horizon Cat, based on the classic Cape Cod catboat design (also available with a larger cockpit, and renamed the Horizon Day Cat). Its trailerable sloops include a 16.5-daysailer called the Legacy and the Com-Pac Eclipse, a 21-foot micro-cruiser.

The only Com-Pac cruiser listed on the companys website today is the Com-Pac 27/3, a 6,000-pound-displacement coastal cruiser, but Com-Pac still has the molds to the 35. A lack of orders in recent years has led to some discussion about dropping the design from the lineup, but for now, it remains in production.

Brothers Rich and Gerry Hutchins now run the company. Rich has worked for Com-Pac since his childhood, once running the metal shop in St. Louis. Younger brother Gerry is a graduate engineer who began his career at Gulfstar.

The Com-Pac 35 is regarded as a semi-custom boat, so owners are allowed some latitude in selecting the accommodations. Production is limited to four to or five boats per year, but it has been several years since they have had any orders, according to the maker. The bulk of Com-Pacs boat-building orders these days are for the smaller daysailers. During its peak production run, the Com-Pac 35 represented about 25 percent of the companys boatbuilding production.

Com-Pac operates as a combination manufacturing and assembly plant, since hulls for the larger boats are laminated off-site by JMJ Fiberglass, which specializes in fiberglass and has had a 15-year relationship with Com-Pac.

Were not interested in being in the glass business, because its a specialized business and requires a huge commitment for space, Rich Hutchins explained. However, we dictate lamination schedules, and store and maintain the molds between production runs. (We found fiberglass and gelcoat surfaces on our test boat to be smooth, with no evidence of print-through or crazing.)

The Com-Pac manufacturing facility comprises three buildings housing assembly areas, and metal and wood shops. Dealers are located in most major sailing ports. The company has delivered boats to the Great Lakes and all three U.S. coasts. Many 35s are currently cruising the waters of the Caribbean and the Florida Keys.

The target market for the 35-footer is the experienced sailor stepping up from a smaller boat who wants to sail offshore.

Designed by Charley Morgan, the 35 was introduced 24 years ago as a 33-footer with a standard transom. However, when the market demanded the addition of a swim platform, the molds were retooled, and the stern swept aft, adding one foot to the waterline.

She is a traditional, beamy cruiser, Rich Hutchins explained, typical of Charleys designs.

Morgan divided the design criteria into four elements: She had to have a shoal draft, be stable and sea kindly, and fast enough to give good results under PHRF rules. To that end, Morgan combined a large sailplan with moderate displacement, a long waterline, generous beam, and a Scheel keel.

The patented (Henry) Scheel keel design is wider at the bottom of the keel than in the middle section. It widens again at the top where it joins the hull, so that the cross-section resembles an elongated chemistry flask. The width is achieved through a gentle, concave curve. As with a wing keel, or bulb keel, the broad section at the bottom creates a large area to place ballast down low. The bottom is curved to reduce drag at the base of the keel.

Proponents claim a Scheel keel will work better to windward than other shoal-draft designs, but once you start reducing the leading edge of a keel, the gains in performance are slight. In our opinion, the wing versus Scheel keel debate should be more focused on practicality, and at least, the Scheel keel is less likely to foul a rode or snag a reef than some wing designs.

Rich Hutchins described the shoal-draft Scheel keel as the perfect keel for a cruising boat, compared to a full keel. The design incorporates a wide trunk that runs to a significantly wider foot filled with lead ingots. The design provides excellent lift, allows the boat to turn in her length, and to access shallow anchorages.

The Com-Pac 35 displaces 12,500 pounds, of which 5,700 pounds is ballast. The sail area to displacement ratio is 17.2, typical of this breed of boat, and the displacement to length ratio is 232.5-a moderately light ratio. We expect it to outperform many similarly sized performance cruisers, although the shoal draft does limit its windward performance compared to deeper keel boats.

The Com-Pac 35s profile reflects Morgans keen eye for aesthetics. The boat has slightly sloping sheerline accented by a bowsprit that lends a traditional look while increasing the sailplan. The sprit also facilitates the use of large light-air sails, eliminating the need for a spinnaker pole and associated gear.

The rather high-profile cabintop, which is 18 inches tall, creates headroom below while providing light and ventilation through five ports.

A teak eyebrow, and two teak handrails running the length of the cabintop add just enough brightwork to give the appearance of a cruising boat, without making it high maintenance.

Com-Pac 35

Photo by David Leo

Deck Layout

Sailhandling arrangements feature internal halyards, a mast free of winches, and sail controls led aft to rope clutches. The single-spreader spar is made by Charleston Spars, and standing rigging is wire.

Halyards are led through Harken turning blocks installed at the base of the mast to Spinlock XT rope clutches. The main traveler sits on a heavy stainless-steel bracket attached to a 6-inch-tall molded fiberglass pod at the front of the companionway. The traveler, which is 14 inches above the cabintop, avoids chafing the gelcoat.

Coachroof winches are Harken two-speed 32s, while primary winches are Harken two-speed 40s. The headsail-trimming tracks are located on the rail. They are 68 inches long, enough to produce proper sheet-lead options for an oversized genoa or a blade.

Deck hardware standard equipment includes a Hood furler, though our test boat was equipped with an optional Profurl. Not our favorite furler (see PS August 2009 online), Profurl models have held up well over the years, so long as the high-carbon steel bearings are monitored for corrosion.

The 34-inch-long bowsprit supports a beefy stainless-steel plate 24 inches long and 12 inches wide, fitted with double anchor rollers. It appears to be sturdy enough to support the loads of two anchors.

Theres room between the stem and the forward end of the cabin trunk for a dinghy on deck, or for stretching out.

Stanchions are only 25 inches high, too short for our taste, especially since the toerail is only an inch tall. The decks on our test boat were covered with a heavy dew, so we appreciated the very aggressive nonskid on the deck, cabintop, seats, and coaming.

The boat is well-ventilated. Two 20-inch by 14-inch hatches are located on the bow, and pairs are mounted under the boom and at the aft end of the cabintop. Add a companionway measuring 38 inches long when open and dorade boxes near the front of the companionway, and fresh air moves easily into all spaces belowdecks. This is a boat naturally equipped to deal with the heat of a Florida summer.

The T-shaped cockpit is well laid out and comfortable. It measures 44 inches from wheel to companionway and 25 inches between seats. The well is 15 inches deep. Seats are only 50 inches long, adequate for seating two adults but too short for stretching out for a nap.

Stereo speakers are built into a recessed cubby in the coaming where they are safely out of the way; a second cubby with fiddles provides storage for winch handles and sunscreen.

The helmsman is elevated by a slightly arched seat aft of a 36-inch destroyer-style stainless wheel. Theres good visibility over the top of the wheel. Like many builders, Com-Pac installs oval-shaped teak seats on the stern corners, offering a comfortable perch for daysailing.

Standard equipment in the galley is an alcohol stove, which Rich Hutchins said meets the needs of most owners and satisfies those with a concern about the volatility of propane (LPG). While many owners are content with the wick-style alcohol stoves (particularly those who seldom bake), the advantages of LPG became clear in our review of marine stoves (see PS July 2007 online). LPG remains our preferred means of cooking onboard for longer-term cruising, so long as the owner is serious about properly storing and using LPG onboard (see PS March 2014).

Aboard the Com-Pac 35, the optional propane tank is located in the open area beneath the helmsmans seat. Any leaked gas can drain into a scupper below the seat. Compared to other dedicated propane lockers, this is more exposed. Wed like to see more protection for the tank and gauge.

The starboard lazarette is cavernous. It provides storage for sails or an inflatable dinghy, and access to the steering unit and through-hulls. A 30-gallon aluminum fuel tank is located aft of the engine, leaving space for a heater or generator.

One owner reported that he had to replace his fuel tank, due to pin-holes in the bottom caused by poultice corrosion. On his boat, the tank rested on a plywood base that absorbed moisture-a construction no-no. The new tank was placed on a non-hydrodscopic Starboard, preventing potential future poultice corrosion problems.

A three-cylinder Westerbeke 27-horsepower diesel is standard on the Com-Pac 35. The engine fits very snugly in a soundproofed compartment, making it a challenge to work on, in our opinion. Rich Hutchins disagrees.

One Com-Pac 35 owner told us that checking the oil level is easy, but that changing the oil is more difficult and checking the water-pump impeller is a chore.

In order to create space in the aft cabin below, the port lazarette is only 8 inches deep. However, its 30 inches long and 17 inches wide, and provides good stowage for fenders, lines, and other oft-used items. This is actually a better arrangement than having to invert ones self, digging for something that has migrated to the deepest part of a voluminous locker.

Considering the extensive list of standard gear, our overall impression is that the boat is well-equipped. The boat owner interested in improving performance will want add a vang, an inboard track for smaller headsails, an adjustable backstay, and perhaps spinnaker gear.

Accommodations

The Com-Pac 35 is spacious, well-arranged, and nicely finished belowdecks. Standing headroom is 6 feet, 4 inches. Access, however, is down a relatively steep ladder.

The head is to starboard at the foot of the companionway, and the nav station is forward. Also to starboard are two heavily upholstered swivel chairs surrounding an entertainment center. One chair swivels to provide a seat for the navigator, who sits opposite the L-shaped galley, which is located to port.

The entertainment center houses a cocktail table, TV/VCR combination, AM-FM radio, and CD player, all standard equipment. Two halogen reading lights to starboard and three to port provide excellent lighting. Sleeping cabins are to port in the stern and in the bow.

The centerpiece of the main saloon is an L-shaped settee and dining table hinged to the forward bulkhead. The table is large enough for four adults. When out of service, it swings up to enclose a large cabinet mounted on the bulkhead, significantly increasing the space available for storing plates and cutlery. The cabinet, 10 inches deep and 20 inches wide, with six compartments, is very well made-one of the best weve seen.

With the tabletop stowed, the space converts to a 6 foot by 8 foot conversation pit. The settee also folds out to make a wide, 72-inch-long berth.

The galley has some interesting wrinkles. A hinged board on the aft bulkhead drops to cover the stove, producing a 24-inch by 42-inch countertop adjacent to the reefer/dry locker. Double stainless sinks are standard, as is a microwave. Another unique feature is a hinged shelf at the inboard end of the counter that rotates downward to provide a drink tray for the galley slave.

Storage for pots and pans is below the stove, which, on our test boat, was a two-burner LPG Hillerange stove-oven combination, a $1,360 option.

The head has a shower with a seat separated from the main area by a half-height plexiglass partition. Adding a curtain would help keep spray out of the main compartment. There is a great deal of potential storage space in the fiberglass panliner beneath the seat. Some owners have used deck-plates or small plastic access hatches to create more storage there.

The port stateroom aft is rather spartan, consisting of a double berth and hanging locker; its ventilated by hatches overhead and in the cockpit. Clearance between the top of the berth and the bottom of the cockpit is a meager 21 inches.

The forward stateroom is enclosed by a door with an arched top, a nice touch. Furnishings include a small seat to starboard, a hanging locker large enough for four sets of foulies, and storage shelves running the length of the compartment. The berth measures 84 inches wide at the head and 76 inches on centerline.

On balance, we think Morgan did an excellent job of apportioning space, since two-thirds of the boats living spaces are in the cockpit and saloon. The cockpit seats six comfortably; space for four, possibly six diners is adequate, and sleeping quarters are large enough for an extended cruise.

The swivel chairs and L-shaped settees are a poor choice for offshore passagemaking; theyre better suited for sailing from port to port alongshore.

Performance

With assistance from Max Heller of SeaCraft Yachts in Seattle, we tested the boat on Lake Union on relatively flat water. It motored easily and quietly at 5 knots; company literature indicates that itll do 8 knots under power at top speed with the standard Westerbeke. While leaving the dock with a light breeze on the beam, the boat easily backed up in straight line. A three-blade propeller stops it quickly, and the boat spins 360 degrees in one boat-length.

We sailed under full main and a 135-percent genoa on the furler. In 6 to 8 knots of wind, it sailed easily at 5 to 5.5 knots,; it buried a shoulder and squirted forward in the occasional puff. The boat was surprisingly nimble considering its design and displacement; it sails well to weather and tacks quickly. The Scheel keel produced a stiff ride-a surprise on a shallow-draft cruising boat.

One owner told us he cannot beat inside 100 degrees, but we matched that number easily, and think a properly tuned rig and well-cut sails will produce 90- to 95-degree tacking angles consistent with a sloop. It cannot, however, be expected to perform on par with a competitive fin-keel boat. PHRF numbers in various fleets range from 147 to 167.

Since we saw 5-plus knots of boatspeed in light air, we suspect performance in moderate winds will be solid. Morgan described a downwind sail under spinnaker in heavy seas on the Gulf of Mexico during which the boat recorded bursts of 11-knot speed. Thats well outside the average curve for a 35-foot, moderate-displacement cruiser.

Conclusions

The boats speed and maneuverability in light air was impressive. In this case, the Scheel keel provides shoal draft with minimal cost to performance. The boat points well and goes as fast as other boats that we might call moderate-performance cruisers.

The deck layout is typical of its contemporaries, and its easy to move about the deck to handle sails. Accommodations belowdecks are spacious and reflect the builders attention to detail. The Com-Pac 35 is outfitted with an extensive list of standard gear that includes sails and furler, deck gear, well-equipped galley, television/stereo/CD players and speakers. Add a downwind sail, electronics package, and autopilot, and its ready for extended cruising.

The boat, which listed for about $150,000 in 2001, has held its value relatively well. The limited production run keeps it under the radar of most boat searches, which has neither hurt nor helped prices. In some respects, it is a niche boat, holding particularly strong appeal to a couple who wants to sneak into shallower areas of the Bahamas or slip in and out of the Intracoastal Waterway without fear of running aground, or resorting to a centerboard.

Morgans long years on the west coast of Florida and familiarity in the Bahamas showed him early on that some of the best nooks and crannies are off limits to a boat that draws more than 5 feet. Com-Pac has done a good job keeping the boat practical to sail, nice to look at, and not a chore to maintain.

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The Com pac 25 is a 28.17ft masthead sloop designed by Hutchins Group and built in fiberglass by Com-Pac Yachts/ Hutchins Co. since 1979.

The Com pac 25 is a moderate weight sailboat which is slightly under powered. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.

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Length 28.17 ft
Beam 8.50 ft
Draft 2.50 ft
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Sail area / displ. 14.94
Ballast / displ. 39.58 %
Displ. / length 231.39
Comfort ratio 18.52
Capsize 2.02
Hull type Monohull fin keel with spade rudder
Construction Fiberglass
Waterline length 21 ft
Maximum draft 2.50 ft
Displacement 4800 lbs
Ballast 1900 lbs
Hull speed 6.14 knots

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27-06-2007, 10:45  
Boat: S/V Pooka Com-Pac 27
. There is a 27 on a near here. How do they sail, handle heavy , quality of build, , would you buy one? Only 6000 lbs and 3'6" , do they get tossed around much? Thanks, Bill
27-06-2007, 13:05  
Boat: Gozzard 36
sailer. The key to wanting a like this is you need / want to trailer around to different places and or access shallow waters.

You just are not going to want this for an ocean . You could easily sail this boat on short hops where you pick the day and the . In heavy weather it's not going to handle as well as a traditional boat would. It's not built to that level of construction because it's primary purpose would not include that type of use plus it has to be trailered around.

As a trailer sailor they come with a nice setup for staying aboard overnight and you may have trouble finding a more spacious trailer-able boat. It is clearly optimized for space aboard and ease of trailering.

If you just want to keep a boat in one place and sail it from there then maybe this isn't a good choice.

28-06-2007, 05:08  
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
of the type & purpose.
More than just a trailor-sailer, I've seen several happily cruising The .

Some interesting Com-Pac links:

Hutchins Company (Com-Pac) Profile ~ By Dennis Boese


Com-Pac Yacht Owners Association


Com-Pac 27/2 Brochure (dated 10/99):  
28-06-2007, 06:19  
Boat: S/V Pooka Com-Pac 27
28-06-2007, 07:01  
Boat: Gozzard 36
the will be a nice feature. I'ld love to sail Grand Lake.

28-06-2007, 07:48  
Boat: 1964 Pearson Ariel 'Faith' / Pearson 424, sv Emerald Tide
on her Compac 27. She is very happy with it,

Here is a link to the thread where she posts her updates;

28-06-2007, 12:40  
Boat: C&C 27
04-07-2007, 04:48  
Boat: S/V Pooka Com-Pac 27
brake installed on my truck first to help slow down coming off the Eisenhour tunnel aproach. That is one long steep grade. She will spend the rest of the summer on Dillon res while planning our next trip.

Thnaks for all the and information.
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Boat: S/V Pooka Com-Pac 27
22-12-2019, 06:46  
Boat: Formosa 41
, I got an notification that this 12 year old thread was revived somehow.
I guess the term "trailerable" is subjective. I bought this boat and trailered from Colorado to , and southern . As well as seasonally to and from the reservoir she spent summers on.
Then I stupidly got bigger boat fever and it. What an idiot.
If you want I have tons of photos of our "trailersailer" days.
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Hello to all, first post.. I am looking at a com-pac 23 with the intention of offshore day and possibly overnight cruising and trailering it. It would be my wife, 3 small kids and myself. Please reply if you have any info on what to look for before buying, any experiences with this boat, how it handles rough water, etc. I found this forum by searching for com-pac 23 reviews. Thanks for any replies  

Com-pac 23 This is a great boat. Not to be too long-winded. 1. Comfortable 2. Get an autopilot 3. If sails are blown out (old) then get a new main, at least. 4. They tend to have a pretty strong weather helm. If so, check mast rake that it is fwd enuff, get a new main, reef early or just use genoa (jib), get an ida sail rudder. 5. Small boats get cluttered quick so keep stuff out of it. 6. Tiller tamer and/or autopilot really lets you enjoy your boat 7. Totally shoal draft. Take advantage of it to get close to shore, etc. 8. Solar power on back to keep house battery charged. 9. I am in intercoastal waterway in ne florida. Gets kind of rough but not open sea rough. Boat handles very well. Doesnt bob much. No seasickness. 10. I like the little bowsprit that the /3 and /4 have. It gives you more sail area fwd of the mast to lessen weather helm. Thats all there is to it. enjoy.  

samule said: Com-pac 23 This is a great boat. Not to be too long-winded. 1. Comfortable 2. Get an autopilot 3. If sails are blown out (old) then get a new main, at least. 4. They tend to have a pretty strong weather helm. If so, check mast rake that it is fwd enuff, get a new main, reef early or just use genoa (jib), get an ida sail rudder. 5. Small boats get cluttered quick so keep stuff out of it. 6. Tiller tamer and/or autopilot really lets you enjoy your boat 7. Totally shoal draft. Take advantage of it to get close to shore, etc. 8. Solar power on back to keep house battery charged. 9. I am in intercoastal waterway in ne florida. Gets kind of rough but not open sea rough. Boat handles very well. Doesnt bob much. No seasickness. 10. I like the little bowsprit that the /3 and /4 have. It gives you more sail area fwd of the mast to lessen weather helm. Thats all there is to it. enjoy. Click to expand...

the one i sailed on was pig slow  

compac 25 sailboat review

The Com-Pacs are nice boats, very well made. But they are not intended as "offshore" boats. There aren't any 23', easily trailerable boats out there that I would consider safe for crossing oceans.  

compac 25 sailboat review

Here's a couple of online reviews to check out: From Sailing Magazine : Sailing Magazine | Com-Pac 23 and from Jack Hornor (pro surveyor): Vessels: Sail Reviews: Com-Pac 23 | MadMariner.com  

compac 25 sailboat review

The Dana 24? would probably be the only offshore rated boat that is trailerable. NOW< if off shore is going to catalina island, or some other island say 20-30 miles away from the main land, in good weather etc, you can wait out the other end if a gale shows up. I would bet the Com-Pac would work. There is a 19' version reviewed in Good old boat IIRC sept/oct issue. Marty  

compac 25 sailboat review

blt2ski said: The Dana 24? would probably be the only offshore rated boat that is trailerable. NOW< if off shore is going to catalina island, or some other island say 20-30 miles away from the main land, in good weather etc, you can wait out the other end if a gale shows up. I would bet the Com-Pac would work. There is a 19' version reviewed in Good old boat IIRC sept/oct issue. Marty Click to expand...

First, a disclaimer: this is totally off topic, please ignore... you're not ignoring? oh well. I really have to visit the Atlantic at some point. When I see a boat qualified as "being able to make it to catalina in fair weather"... man, There's a crew that does that in Hobie Cats every month. I know a guy who did it on a laser. I know a group who does it regularly in Kayaks. This is NOT a hard trip to make in good weather, and ANY boat qualifies as open ocean under those circumstances. not that I mind, mind you. I just thought it was interesting what a qualification like that really means. Thanks. -- James  

Hey Tsojjourner: There is a very good ComPac forum at https://cpyoa.com/forum/ Samule is right on in his remarks. We have owned two ComPac 16's, a ComPac 23 and two CpmPac 27's. I have sailed on a ComPac 19...all good boats and fun to sail on. regards charlie  

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Com Pac 19 - Long Island Sound

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I am at least a couple years form making this happen, but I am doing my homework. This question is about specifically a Com Pac 19. I would like to sail the waters of Long Island Sound. Let's say for example Mystic Ct to Montauk NY. Will the Com Pac 19 fit the bill?" I am talking about a forcasted nice and calm day. I am not a thrill seeker and consider me a sailor of average experience. I want to find somthing I can trailer (without it being a royal pain to unload and load). I apologize if this has been asked a hundred times, I could not find anything posted. (I did mange to post this to the plumbing site the first time...hopefully it is nota problem) Thanks, --Keith  

xmo0n said: I am at least a couple years form making this happen, but I am doing my homework. This question is about specifically a Com Pac 19. I would like to sail the waters of Long Island Sound. Let's say for example Mystic Ct to Montauk NY. Will the Com Pac 19 fit the bill?" I am talking about a forcasted nice and calm day. I am not a thrill seeker and consider me a sailor of average experience. I want to find somthing I can trailer (without it being a royal pain to unload and load). I apologize if this has been asked a hundred times, I could not find anything posted. (I did mange to post this to the plumbing site the first time...hopefully it is nota problem) Thanks, --Keith Click to expand

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Pretty well done review of the Com Pac 19 in the current (Sept/Oct) edition of "Good Old Boat" magazine.  

dserrell

dserrell said: Keith, We have an 89' Compac 19/3 named Pachebella that was purchased from a sailor who sailed her on Long Island Sound. The Compac 19 is a very capable and seaworthy sailboat designed by Navel Architect Bob Johnson, who designs the Island Packets. The Compac 19 has a B/D ratio of .40, meaning the 800# keel is 40% of the total displacement of 2,000#. She's a very stable sailboat because of the B/D ratio and the flat hull design. We've sailed Pachebella across the Chesapeake, from Key Largo to Key West, and in many other places, but mostly in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Southeastern North Carolina. The Compac 19 is easy to trailer and launch once you develop a mast raising system. I can raise the mast myself. Pachebella is our third Compac! We've owned two Compac 16/3s before Pachebella. The Compac 19 is literally twice as big as a Compac 16. The pictures below show Pachebella at her home port. The link has many more pictures! You'll see that we have really upgraded Pachebella for some extended cruising, and even though she's only 20' long she's very comfortable. The Compac 19 was definitely the right sailboat for us. Fair weather! David http://s823.photobucket.com/albums/zz160/dserrell/ Click to expand

Re: Thanks Even though I cannot type, I still meant it. Thanks, --Keith  

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  1. Com-pac 25

    Oldest first. S. Stede. 351 posts · Joined 2002. #2 · Jun 27, 2002. I have never sailed on a Com-pac 25, but had the opportunity to look one over at the Annapolis sailboat show a few years ago. It caught my interest because I had just purchased a 26 ft.trailable sailboat called a "Classic Yacht" and at the time of purchase, Com-Pac hadn''t ...

  2. COM-PAC 25

    It takes into consideration "reported" sail area, displacement and length at waterline. The higher the number the faster speed prediction for the boat. A cat with a number 0.6 is likely to sail 6kts in 10kts wind, a cat with a number of 0.7 is likely to sail at 7kts in 10kts wind. KSP = (Lwl*SA÷D)^0.5*0.5

  3. Review of Com-Pac 25

    Keel. Full keel. The Com-Pac 25 is equipped with a long keel. A full keel provide a better directional stability than a similar boat with a fin keel; on the other hand, better directional stability means also that the boat is more difficult to handle in a harbour with less space. The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just ...

  4. Thoughts on the ComPac 27 vs the Island Packet 27?

    Reversed actually.. The CP is a 'semi fin' SailboatData.com - COM-PAC 27/2 Sailboat and the IP has the cutaway full keel SailboatData.com - ISLAND PACKET 27 Sailboat. The Compac is lighter by 2000 lbs and has 3500 lbs ballast. The IP27 is 2,000 lbs. heavier but has only 4,000 lbs. ballast. Reply Like.

  5. Seaward 26 vs Com-Pac 25

    Seaward 26 vs Com-Pac 25. I am looking for a large pocket cruiser / small cruiser. I want a boat built within the last 5 or so years. It will be used mainly for sailing coastal south florida and the keys, but may make the occasional trip to bimini under the right weather conditions. I really like the more classic, salty looking boats - not kile ...

  6. Com-Pac 25

    Com-Pac 25 is a 28′ 2″ / 8.6 m monohull sailboat designed by Hutchins Group and built by Com-Pac Yachts starting in 1979. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240 ...

  7. Cruising the Com-Pac 35

    Its trailerable sloops include a 16.5-daysailer called the Legacy and the Com-Pac Eclipse, a 21-foot micro-cruiser. The only Com-Pac cruiser listed on the companys website today is the Com-Pac 27/3, a 6,000-pound-displacement coastal cruiser, but Com-Pac still has the molds to the 35. A lack of orders in recent years has led to some discussion ...

  8. Com-Pac 25

    The Com-Pac 25 is a recreational keelboat, built predominantly of fiberglass, with wood trim. It has a masthead sloop rig, a raked stem, a near-plumb transom, an internally mounted spade-type rudder controlled by a tiller and a fixed fin keel. Wheel steering was a factory option. The boat displaces 4,800 lb (2,177 kg) and carries 1,900 lb (862 ...

  9. 2004 Com Pac 25

    This Compac 25 has been carefully cared for and is only available because the owner has purchased a bigger boat since he enjoyed this one so much. It's a fin...

  10. Com pac 25

    The Com pac 25 is a 28.17ft masthead sloop designed by Hutchins Group and built in fiberglass by Com-Pac Yachts/ Hutchins Co. since 1979. The Com pac 25 is a moderate weight sailboat which is slightly under powered. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.

  11. Why did Compac stop making the 25? Were there problems?

    January 25, 2017, 09:18:54 PM. 3 issues.....in their proper order: 1-cost to build was getting so close to the 27 it no longer made sense. 2-the hull mold was getting tired and needed attention (read investment) 3-lack of demand. Confirm the Watkins hull was a for sure... ComPac totally retooled the cabin/deck.

  12. Compac 23 & 27

    The Compac shallow draft is convenient especially here in Tampa Bay. They don't point well but motor sailing takes care of that if we need to hurry in. We have a Compac 25 which has a similar beam to the 23 (can be trailered) and cabin size closer to the 27. They stopped making those, so I guess it didn't hit the sweet spot of compromise.

  13. Any negative experience with the Compac 23?

    Jun 14, 2015. 1. compac 23 Davis Island. Jun 14, 2015. #2. Hi Compacbrain, I just recently signed up for this forum, We've owned our Compac 23 for about a year now, docked in Tampa. It's a great little boat, light, sturdy, and the shoal draft is absolutely amazing! It will make all your friends jealous.

  14. Com-Pac CP 23 Pilothouse

    Boat Reviews. Com-Pac CP 23 Pilothouse. ... FUEL/WATER (GAL) 7/25 ENGINE Yanmar 12hp ELECTRICAL 105AH DESIGNER Hutchins Brothers BUILDERCom-Pac Yachts, Clearwater, FL, 727-443-4408 PRICE $70,000 base. Photos courtesy of Com-Pac Yachts. Related. Lifestyles. Power vs Sail: Narragansett Bay or Chesapeake Bay.

  15. I keep forgetting about the Com-Pac 27...

    838 posts · Joined 2007. #5 · Oct 11, 2008. I don't know if that's a sign of how well it's built, double lifelines would be the first modification I would make to the Hunter. The Hunter is over 1600lbs heavier than the Com-Pac and has 500lbs less ballast (H27 = 7600lbs, 2000lbs ballast. CP27 = 6000lbs, 2500lbs ballast).

  16. Com Pac 27, opinions please

    Location: Galveston. Boat: C&C 27. Posts: 725. Bill, You may want ot check the state trailer width limits. The Compac is 9'6" and many states limit trailers to 8'6". I looked into a trailer sailor and decided that the cost of a trailer plus a tow vehicle didn't make sense for me. But they are nice boats. pv.

  17. Com-Pac Yachts/ Hutchins Co.

    www.com-pacyachts.com. Part of the Hutchins Company, a family owned-and-operated corporation founded in 1957 by W.L. Hutchins Sr. They began building sailboats in 1970 and continue to this day. Years in Business: 1970 - present. Sailboats Built By Com-Pac Yachts/ Hutchins Co. (Dates indicate when boat was first built by any builder)

  18. 1999 Com-Pac 25, Barnegat New Jersey

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  19. com-pac 23 review?

    4. They tend to have a pretty strong weather helm. If so, check mast rake that it is fwd enuff, get a new main, reef early or just use genoa (jib), get an ida sail rudder. 5. Small boats get cluttered quick so keep stuff out of it. 6. Tiller tamer and/or autopilot really lets you enjoy your boat. 7.

  20. Com Pac 19

    We have an 89' Compac 19/3 named Pachebella that was purchased from a sailor who sailed her on Long Island Sound. The Compac 19 is a very capable and seaworthy sailboat designed by Navel Architect Bob Johnson, who designs the Island Packets. The Compac 19 has a B/D ratio of .40, meaning the 800# keel is 40% of the total displacement of 2,000#.

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    Compac preowned sailboats for sale by owner. Compac used sailboats for sale by owner. Home. Register & Post. View All Sailboats. Search. ... Sailboat Added 25-Apr-2022 More Details: Com-Pac Pilothouse: Length: 23' Beam: 7'8' Draft: 2' Year: 2012: Type: cruiser: Hull: fiberglass monohull: