26-07-2004, 10:25 | |
Boat: Farr 11.6 (AKA Farr 38) Synergy | is that they were built in a manner that meant that they had a very limited lifespan (teak decks over construction grade , wooden spars with casian adhesives, and iron ballast cast in concrete, poor quality , switches, . When my mother was in the oriental boat importing business, other Taiwanese boat builders used to go on at length about how Formosa's shoddy build quality was giving all of them a bad name. It is the poster child for what most people think of when they talk about poor oriental boat building. Then there is the sailing ability which is notoriously poor as well. These are for a reason. They make reasonable initial cost/ high cost liveaboards, unless someone has poured a fortune into one at which point they become cheap initial cost/ moderately high cost liveaboards. So what is that you want to know? Jeff |
26-07-2004, 11:58 | |
Boat: Sea Hunt 234 Ultra | decks any more. Somebody has really put a fortune into it, both in terms of and grease. Wireing and switches, etc is also new..So is mounts, , shaft, tranny and mucho other stuff. Did a search on the web and found them (1979, 51s) ranging from $134K $371K.. This one should be in the middle at about $200K Then of course there is the and his microspcope... , don't be shy, let it rip..... |
26-07-2004, 17:48 | |
Boat: Formosa Georgian Mk IV 62' Dolce Vita | with no ,and I repeat no or rotton , Tinned wireing with Marinetics and switches ,Aluminum ,SS , Spars ,and all SS appears to be 316L.and as an added bonus all the joinery in tight and solid. Now this is first hand observations of our Formosa, not business salesman friends of my mom's. Now with that off my chest. I will say all boats are a compremise (sp)and are individuals unto themselves. Both in performance and build. Past maintanance plays a major roll also . If the boat matches the buyer , make the Michael |
29-07-2004, 09:38 | |
Boat: Cal 34 & Pearson 424 | 44 and 46's; well-respected boats">blue water boats. The fellow a few slips from me is re-fitting his 44; they do tend to have problems with , like many older boats. Take a look at Sue and Larry's articles at Sailnet.com: they chose a Formosa after a new and doing much . |
29-07-2004, 19:11 | |
Boat: Farr 11.6 (AKA Farr 38) Synergy | . Formosa produced a pirated design, that they called a Peterson until Peterson took action against Formosa after which the name was changed to a Formosa 44. As I understand it the Formosa version had some of the sailing characteristics of the Kelly Petersons but were substanially heavier and rift with build quality issues. Jeff |
30-07-2004, 05:10 | |
in company with friends that had a Formosa 51. It seems like there were many issues with the boat, and they spent a lot of time in port fixing things (more than most) but they liked it. The things that stand out in my mind was the size of the large room, the easy motion at and the overall size of the thing which, in the end was too much for a couple and one child and, made me feel uncomfortable. I never saw them sail the boat - they always motored. | |
07-08-2004, 08:02 | |
Boat: Farr 11.6 (AKA Farr 38) Synergy | , they imported and these boats in the States. In the course of developing a design, picking a yard to build that design, and supervising the construction of the boats that she also sold, she spent a lot of time in the yards in Taiwan. The boat building community is quite small and close knit and so designers, yard owners and managers would frequently hang out together during which there was very open conversations about the issues that each yard was living with. Within that circle of builders, the industry was a something of an open book. There were no salesmen involved. One of the frequent topics of conversation was how many of the yards had worked to improve the quality of the Taiwanese boats and yet they were getting branded as leaky teakies because of the poor quality boats coming out of a comparatively few yards at that time. Formosa was frequently cited as one of the poster for use of poor materials, shoddy workmanship where it counted and poor construction practices. This matched my mother and stepfather's opinion while touring the yard in the course of trying to sellect a yard to build a line of boats that they were developing at the time. It sounds like someone has taken the time, and spent the to upgrade your boat and that is all well and good, but within the Taiwanese boat building community Formosa's were seen as the kind of boats that give Oriental boats a bad name. Respectfully, Jeff |
07-08-2004, 11:57 | |
Boat: Its in French Polynesia now | |
07-08-2004, 17:51 | |
Boat: Formosa Georgian Mk IV 62' Dolce Vita | . Michael: |
22-08-2004, 17:20 | |
Boat: 44' CSY "Walkover" cutter, La Nostra | of older boats, especially with regard to upgrades, is crucial, the comments which Jeff makes about this and their products is spot on! As a generality, they are not a good investment ... BUT, that said, there are exceptions to every . Suggestion: Hire a GOOD , let him do his thing THOROUGHLY, and abide by his findings. (Not a bad idea for any boat!) |
05-01-2005, 01:12 | |
Boat: 36' bristol island cutter | and others that didn't. The older pre 1980's were much thicker and stronger built using some of the better materials if you find a Overseas 51. The boat is large and roomy, better than expected if you know how to sail it on the angle that Mr. garden intended it to sail. Upwind the bow angle pushes the bow back to windward thus giving the design a special way ahead of her time. They are very easy to overpower thus the popular rigg which keeps the small. Formosa did make a lot of cheap boats over the years and I have even seen the sunday comics inside hulls instead of cloth. You just have to look for the right yard in Taiwan that built it back then. The best way to tell is the "eyebrow" on the pilothouse version. some have a large eyebrow and some have a little dinky one. The large one is a overseas. I have sailed over 20,000 miles on an overseas without problems,though some upgrading in the was done. |
05-01-2005, 01:51 | |
Boat: WHOOSH, Pearson 424 Ketch | in New Zealand), and otherwise got an empty boat: no system, no electrics, no tanks, no engine, no masts or sails, no , etc. They were on a tight , were drawing on the experience of three prior circumnavigations between the husband & wife, and spec'd out or did the rest of the work themselves. NATASHA was a real seagoing boat when they finished, and the of 5 did a 5-year Circle in her without any structural or other problems beyond the lousy decks. Now...having said all that, she was l-o-n-g and she was HEAVY. She was unfit for crews that were small and/or inexperienced. Her times were not impressive for her length and crew size, and of course she was a - with all the assets and liabilities of a ketch. She was probably an ideal boat to be sailing in the Trades across the Pacific, Indian and up the South Atlantic, and to be taking around . But the was horribly unergonomic, the upkeep required was relentless, and the slip today would be breathtaking. None of these issues are mitigated by her unique, far better than most construction details. Jack |
03-09-2006, 18:11 | |
, ketch version with masts and a 4_108? | |
25-09-2006, 09:56 | |
sail backwinded untill the bow is pushed around by the . Let fly the sheet and haul in on opposit tack. At 52,000 lbs she steers and sails like a large boat. What would you expect. Never with the and use the mid ship cleat before all others. I can provide lots more info on handling if need be. Angelique will sail in light or heavy air at half od the wind speed up to . 10Kts of wind = 5 Kts sailing speed. My boatwas built in 1978 and is very heavy. Built like a tank. All of the boats built years ago need and upgrade so why say Formosa is any worse than any other. The boat / any boat will only be as good as the care that has been taken of her. The boat you find or will only be as good as the work you do finding and surveying her. Go into a deal on any boat with your eyes open and not blinded by initial desire. Angelique has had aprox $95,000 to $100,000 spent on upgrades and refurbishments. She isn,t done. Initial for an older boat in need of work may be $65,000 to $85,000 depending on condition. When in sail away condition they will sell for $160,000 and up. I would be glad to help you with any information or questions you have . I recomend though that you do your homework. Here are the boats I can recomend you look at. Formosa, Hardin, , and Vagabond. All fall into the Clipper realm. | |
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Also known as the YANKEE CLIPPER 41. ATLANTIC CLIPPER. Similar to CT-41, SEA WOLF 40, SEA TIGER 41.
Formosa Boat Building Co. Ltd. Company, located in Taiwan, responsible for building a number of yachts under the Formosa name, at a number of different yards.
Formosa 41 is a 40′ 10″ / 12.5 m monohull sailboat designed by William Garden and built by Ta Chiao and Formosa Boat Building Co. Ltd. starting in 1972.
The Formosa 41 is a heavy sailboat which is under powered. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has an excellent righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a heavy bluewater cruising boat. The fuel capacity is average. There is a good water supply range.
The Formosa 51 is a 51.0ft staysail ketch designed by William Garden and built in fiberglass by Formosa Boat Building Co. Ltd. between 1972 and 1984. The Formosa 51 is a very heavy sailboat which is under powered.
The Formosa 46 is a 45.0ft cutter designed by Doug Peterson and built in fiberglass by Formosa Boat Building Co. Ltd. since 1978. The Formosa 46 is a moderate weight sailboat which is slightly under powered.
Also available with a Perkins engine. A number of production yachts were based on this design including the HUDSON FORCE 50, GOLDCOAST OFFSHORE 50.
The Formosa 42 is a classic cruising sailboat that was designed by Stan Huntingford and built in Taiwan by Formosa Boat Building Co Ltd from 1981 to 1990. It is also known as the Slocum 43, after the famous circumnavigator Joshua Slocum.
FORMOSA preowned sailboats for sale by owner. FORMOSA used sailboats for sale by owner.
The Formosa 34 is a 34.0ft masthead sloop built in fiberglass by Formosa Boat Building Co. Ltd. since 1975. The Formosa 34 is a moderate weight sailboat which is under powered.
Formosa 51 is a 50′ 11″ / 15.5 m monohull sailboat designed by William Garden and built by Ta Chiao and Formosa Boat Building Co. Ltd. between 1972 and 1984.
Specifications LOA: 60′ 0″ LOD: 50'11" LWL: 39′ 0″ Beam: 14′ 2″ Draft: 6′ 2″ Displacement: 52,000 lbs. Ballast: 12.000 lbs. Bridge Clearance: 64′ 0″ Headroom 6'4″ - 6′ 6″ Engine: 85, 120 or 135hp Ford Lehman Fuel Tankage: 160 US Gal. Water Tankage: 150 US Gal. Designer: William Garden Builder: Formosa Boat Building Company Year Introduced: 1972 Year Ended: 1984
Yet another altered version of the KELLY-PETERSON 44 (PETERSON 44 CUTTER), first offered in 1976. (Often, as in this case, with out the payment of design royalties.) To make the boat longer, it is said that builders simply added an incremental distance between each station on the original plans.
Images: 124. '79 Formosa Ketch: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly? A friend is looking at a 1979 Formosa 51 here in Florida and I am the middleman. The boat is extremely well maintained-upgraded-refurbished by the manager of a local boat yard and the price seems reasonable.
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The Formosa 30 is a 29.58ft masthead ketch designed by Alden and built in fiberglass by Formosa Boat Building Co. Ltd. since 1972. The Formosa 30 is a heavy sailboat which is slightly under powered.
formosa 41' ketch need advice Jump to Latest 89K views 96 replies 31 participants last post by 156680 May 13, 2019 F feroni Discussion starter 4 posts · Joined 2009 #1 · Jan 8, 2009 Hello I'm seeking for a good offshore vessel, capable of crossing the Atlantic, I really like Formosa 41' ketch she seams to be a beautiful boat, but I know little about her seaworthiness, I could really use ...
Specifications FORMOSA 41 Home - Sailboat Listings 1972 - 40.92 ft / 12.47 m - Formosa Boat Yard Ta Chiao - William Garden
The Formosa 44 is a 42.68ft masthead sloop designed by Ron Amy and built in fiberglass by Formosa Boat Building Co. Ltd. since 1983. The Formosa 44 is a heavy sailboat which is a reasonably good performer.
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The design has been attributed to Ron Holland though this has not been verified and his name is not shown on the original brochure. It is thought that the tooling was used by at least 2 different builders in Taiwan. An estimate is that 20 were built.