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One more tidbit; when they painted the bottom, they also painted my depth transducer. As a result, it was inoperative. After launch, I scrubbed off 1 coat of blue bottom paint (no red) with a bronze brush, and voilla! it worked - for that day. (Now you understand my suspicion about the number of coats.) Since that 1 day, it has been completely inoperative. I have tried sanding with 400 grit several times, and still no joy. The sounder is a circa 1987 Signet Marine unit - worth about $20...
Crane up, wiring disconnect, furler, rigging x 2. Not enough info, how much total?
I had one yard charge 800 to unstep and step a mast on a 28 footer and another 10 miles away charge 1/2 that to do a mast on a 35 footer - 50 ffet of mast. They charge what they can get away with.
I just recently paid $600....that included hauling the boat, mast out and back in, being n the yard for 12 days and put back in the water (plus labor for rigger to help replace standing rigging).
OK; $325 to unstep, and now $325 to step.
That's a little steeper than what we pay around here but pretty much in the range. For a 55' spar I am at about $175.00 down, $250.00 up and $110.00 for indoor heated storage where I can work on it in the winter if I need to.. I think $325.00 is certainly in the range. I am always there when our spar is stepped. Two guys + me and about four+ total hours of work not including bending on the sails just stepping, tuning pinning, rigging.. Just retrieving the mast from the rack, untying all the rigging, installing the spreaders, VHF, windex, wind transducer, spreader boots and testing all the wiring before stepping was a solid two hours of prep. A spreader bolt galled, as happens from time to time, so that added about 20-30 minutes but this type of stuff happens. We then have the Spartite, mast boot, mast drain, mast wiring in the boat and all the other rigging like the lazy jacks & furler to rig. As for your bottom paint I regularly get our CS-36T done with one gallon or Pettit Ultima SR... The MOST IMPORTANT step is to make sure the yard hot coated the first layer of bottom paint to the last layer of barrier coat. Many yards royally "F" this up and totally miss this critically important window.. When I paid to have our boat done I put it in writing that it would be hot coated per manufacturers instructions and made it a point to be there when they did it. My yard was honest and missed the window and owned up to it. It cost me another gallon of barrier but was totally worth it to have it properly applied.
Cost for the mast in and out doesn't sound out of line. Doesn't sound like they put on the three coats of bottom paint you asked for however.
Yard here charges a set fee to unstep/step mast $60 if boat is out of the water (more if boat is in the water and/or if you have to make a special appt). Max price $90+$50 for dock, that boom truck can drive on,use.
eherlihy:897888 said: OK; $325 to unstep, and now $325 to step. Click to expand...
I'd say it was unreasonable..
Mine was $130 to unstep and $260 to step in Alameda, Ca. I did most of the work but I don't own a crane so I had to pay the $130.00 per man hour for the crane and two guys. I still feel a little bit ripped off but not like I need Preperation H to fix it.
Thanks all! I had initially wanted this thread to be a little vague, as I believe that the yard owner is a good guy, and I believe that he may come across this thread. However, I have since decided that he should know, that I know that his price is OK. Also, I will discuss the bottom paint issue with him. (BTW - he charged $75/hr for this service.) As I keep telling myself, if you want a job done right, take your time and do it yourself ! However, because I landed a job last year, I am now chronologically challenged (time is scarce).
Down here i pay something close to 900 round trip with outdoor rack storage so i do not have to keep the mast on the cabin top To be honest they do a good job and don't dammage anything as to store 4 or 5 hundred masts they have to remove and replace the spreaders, wind stuff ect I know people who have done a spread sheet on every marina in the area and the total costs are all very close as waterfront is big bucks on LI compared to some other places
Wow! Remind me not to move to the east coast. $45 down,$45 up and $50 outdoor winter storage off the boat. Keel stepped with mast length of 45 feet.
Gotta agree that isn't an outrageous price for (un)stepping a mast. Mine takes an hour with the crane and another hour to get everything right. That's 3 people for an hour and 2 for another 90 minuets. Standard labor rate where I do it is $45 an hour, I'm sure the crane operator is more. So 225 + the crane charges ~100. total 325.
Just got a quote here in CT for this coming winter season - $7/foot to unstep and store, and $5/foot to step. Seems about in the ballpark for CT, as frustrating as that is!
Hey, What does unstep / step include? Did they remove the sails and disconnect the electronics when they unstepped the mast? When the mast was stepped did they tune it and pin the rigging? Did they put the sails back on, etc? The yard that I use is low cost, but I have to do everything - remove the sails, take the boom off, disconnect the electronics, etc. In the spring they install the mast and get the rig 'close' but I need to put the sails on, connect the electronics, tune the rig, etc. So, your price may be good or it may be high depending on what the yard did. Barry
No Mainsail the guys in the family run yard where I store my boat are good ole' boy Americans. No habla Espanol. They speak a very colloquial American dialect. I must prep the boat the boat prior to unstepping. Boom and sails must be off. All halyards coiled etc. There are 2 yard guys and the crane operator. Total time about 1/2 hour. These guys are good and efficient. Mast off and on saw horses. Spreaders and masthead windex, antenna, and wind instrument off. Stretch wrap part of the mast to secure halyards and shrouds. Tractor uses sling to pick up mast and transport 200 yards to mast racks. Wham, bam, thank you ma'm. I know these guys are a dying breed. They only store boats on cradles with the mast down so they end up stepping and unstepping the masts of all the boats in their yard. Hopefully they will be around for awhile before some developer scoops up their property. I have been with them for the last 15 years.
No other electronics on the mast or stays (radar/wind indicators/etc) on my mast.
I live on the west coast and having a mast pulled is cheap enough ($120 total for out/in) to include it as part of the regular haul out.It gives you a chance to inspect, replace and/or repair your rigging, halyards fittings,wiring, etc as well as add new stuff (in my case also sand, varnish and paint). A lot of important stuff up the mast gets over looked...this is a very important part of boat maintenance, and you can be a lot more thorough on the ground.
eherlihy said: I just stumbled on my old thread (I am the OP). My boat is still in Narragansett Bay. In the 7 years since the OP I have moved my boat about 8 miles from where I had the mast steped and unsteped for $325 each way. THIS year it has cost me $940: Crane Charge: $150 Unstep Mast: $425 Store Mast: $141 Remove and Store Roller Furler: $210 Environmental Surcharge: $14 I removed the boom and the sails, AND helped the guys with the crane. In the spring ithey'll charge me an additional $575 for the crane and re-step. I am sharing this information so that others will know what they can expect. Not all pirates wear eye patches. irateraft: Click to expand...
...because they can
I just hauled and blocked my boat for 24 hr for some quick maintenance. Could not stay in the slings. $1,000. Robbery. Yes, because they can.
I've mostly done it a DIY yards, so the cost has been minimal. Your cost does sound exorbitant to me, but like others say, I suspect it's just capitalism operating as it is designed.
Interesting question. I think they charge for un-stepping.... and then again to re-step. Yards will publish a price list for typical projects like bottom paining / LOA F or waxing / LOA F or stepping / lin ft of mast. Whatever it is.... it's too much!
Our marina has quoted pricing for boats within size ranges, for things like waxing. Once you get over a specific LOA, which I think it around 45 ft, you pay time and materials. I’ve never understood the variable pricing by the foot for the travel lift. Exact same time and equipment for every haul. At least for those that fit in the same lift.
Planning taking a 42' Jeanneau down to Mobile, AL and looking for a place to unstep the mast in Chicago. Recommendations? Thx!
either skyway yacht works, or crowleys, they are a couple blocks apart, last chance before bridges. mike
duality said: either skyway yacht works, or crowleys, they are a couple blocks apart, last chance before bridges. mike Click to expand
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When un-stepping the mast there are several things that need to happen in preparation for the actual mast removal. The following tips and procedures are in line with the methods we use for boats up to 55′. Small boats or big boats alike, first things must come first. All of the sails and sail covers...
Unstepping the mast is one of the most stressful tasks we sailboat owner's face, but here are some tips to make it a lot easier.
To step and unstep the mast on my Cat 30TR we make up a sling using a large bowline sufficiently loose to allow it to slide up the mast to the required height just below the spreaders.
As masts get higher/heavier, balance becomes more important. When raising or lowering, you really only need three pieces of standing rigging attached. For a single spreader mast, the lowers are all that's needed. For double spreaders, still only the lowers. For triple and above, something a little higher up.
After the local yard quoted over a hundred dollars to unstep my mast (even more expensive than the haulout), I decided to do it the old fashioned way... After consulting the ultimate traditional sailors reference (A Young Sea Officers Sheet Anchor, or a Key to the Leading of Rigging and to Practical Seamanship by Darcy Lever (London, 1819)) and a trip to the local builders supply for materials ...
Single Handed Mast Stepping without a Crane Jump to Latest 29K views 32 replies 17 participants last post by Arcb Apr 23, 2017 Arcb Discussion starter 6300 posts · Joined 2016 #1 · Apr 4, 2017 I am curious to hear some thoughts, tricks and tips with regards to stepping and unstepping a mast on a small boat (Less than 25 feet) without a crane, single handed, or with only the help of a small ...
Hey all hope your summer sailing is going well. I have a few ? on mast stepping. I did it on my smaller boat, however this stick is 56' and probably heavy. I will be in a yard in NY, they have a crane and have told me they will help me out. I take it I should disconnect all wires inside at the...
They move the boat to the pit (10 min), disconnect the shrouds and stays (30 min), lift the mast and place on horses (20 min), remove spreaders (20 min) and move mast into storage building (15 min). That's about 1.5 hours. I will round up to 2. I have a hard time imaging it taking 5 or 6 hours even if you don't prep it like I did.
This will require moving the shackle end to the mast and attach it at the gooseneck. After removing the halyard tails from all deck fittings, coil the halyard tails and tie them off onto the mast. If you have any running backstays, checkstays, or other adjustable stays, now is the time to detach them from your boat and tie them off to the mast.
I need to unstep my mast because I'm replacing the standing rigging, removing/inspecting the chainplates and doing some other work on the mast. My yard doesn't have a mast crane, so they cannot unstep my mast.
The Great Loop adventure is open to sailboats but you need to plan for un-stepping and stepping your mast to clear bridges along the way. Learn about the marinas and costs involved to get ready for this North American cruising trip.
Is it safe to leave the mast and rigging in place over the winter? The yard said that it may cause stress cracks in the gelcoat because there is no give while the boat''s on stands. It costs $300-$500 to unstep and restep the mast. I''m also concerned about damage to the Harken Roller furling system.
Before stepping the mast there needs to be several preparations in order for everything to go smoothly once the crane arrives. So take your time and double, triple check everything in order to keep from having to go aloft, or worse, having to re-step the mast once the mast has been stepped. Below you'll see a few...
Apr 19, 1999. 1,670. Pearson Wanderer Titusville, Florida. Aug 13, 2000. #13. Unstepping the mast on the water - Epilogue. Now I know why sailors curse! It took all day Friday in 96 degree heat and passing thunderstorms to lower the mast, fit the new Windex, run the new jib halyard, raise the mast, and retune the rig.
As big as these sheds are, however, they aren't tall enough to accommodate a sailboat's mast. Since we have to remove her mast prior to shipping Cups to California anyway, we thought it would be a good idea to unstep her mast now, allowing us to store Cups inside one of the sheds and keep her protected from the elements until her move.
At two places (the Erie Canal/Canadian waterways and Chicago), we had to unstep the mast and transport it, turning our sailboat into an underpowered trawler until the mast was re-stepped. In the Catskills, NY, and Chicago, unstepping was done quickly and professionally. We removed our sails, marked the locations of our turnbuckles on the shrouds, disconnected electronics, and made a temporary ...
If you look closely to the video you can see that there is a line attached to the forestay about 8 feet up from the deck. There is someone off camera behind the boat pulling on the line attached to the forestay as the backstay is cut. The side shrouds and lower stays keep the mast in line side to side. The mast falls forward perfectly landing ...
Has anyone tried to step or unstep a Hobie 18 mast by putting the boat up on only one hull while it is on the beach?
I am purchasing my first sailboat, a 71 oday mariner next weekend. The previous owner is not available to show me/ help unstep the mast and put the boat on its trailer. Can anyone point me on the right direction to instructions or videos? The boat yard will do it for $125 should I have them do...
Unstepping the mast of a sailboat can be a daunting task, especially if you have never done it before. With all the information on the internet, I could not find a detailed explanation of what needed to be done to accomplish the task.
Can anyone recommend a yard or rigger who will unstep a mast and assist in loading a sailboat on a transporter in the San Diego Area. Thanks . ... General Sailing Discussions Gear & Maintenance Boat Review Forum Cruising Under Sail Seamanship & Navigation. Top Contributors this Month View All. OntarioTheLake 151 Replies. M. Minnewaska 138 ...
Yard here charges a set fee to unstep/step mast $60 if boat is out of the water (more if boat is in the water and/or if you have to make a special appt). Max price $90+$50 for dock, that boom truck can drive on,use. OK; $325 to unstep, and now $325 to step. That doesn't sound unreasonable.
Planning taking a 42' Jeanneau down to Mobile, AL and looking for a place to unstep the mast in Chicago. Recommendations? Thx!